Ep 3: Crushes on Brushes| What Paint Brush to Choose for Your Next Project
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1:28 Chitchat
12:42 Kinds of Brushes
18:29 Brush Stiffness and How to Choose
23:44 Insider Handy Tips for Brush Care
24:58 How to Wash and Rinse Your Brushes
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Credits
Host -Samantha Pearl
Host- Arly Streed
Host - Emily Pearl Reist
Editing and Music by Thomas Streed
Transcript
0:00
Okay, welcome to How to Handyman, the podcast where we have crushes on brush.
In this episode, Harley teaches us quite a bit about brushes and what brush to pick.
I'm Emily.
I'm Samantha.
0:15
I'm Arley.
And this is how to handy, ma'am.
We started our business five years ago with a bit of delusional confidence, but since then we've learned everything the hardest possible way.
And now you don't have to 'cause we're here.
0:31
So in this episode I'm dedicating it to my twin Hannah, who is one of the coolest humans I know.
She is an engineer who is in a male dominated field and she proves every day why women belong in rooms they are not always welcome in.
0:53
I will make an addendum that she proves that women can be remarkably supportive of other women.
Yeah, she fosters environments that people want to be in and she, we just love her.
Obviously we were the same human at one point, so I like her a lot.
1:11
Yes.
Let's.
Get into the episode.
Yeah, all.
Right, let's do it.
What is a food item that you love so much you really try hard not to share it?
1:27
Well, I'm actually quite willing to share all of my food.
You're a good human.
Yeah, you're a good person.
I'm not trying to like I, I feel guilty otherwise.
I won't tell Jace if the ice cream's almost gone, if if it's the kind of ice cream that he likes, 'cause he really likes the mint chip ice cream.
1:44
So do I.
But if it's almost gone, I try not to say anything about it because he will eat all of it.
If I have four boxes of Girl Scout cookies Samoas, I will put them out on the counter and anybody's welcome to eat them.
2:01
When I opened the last box, the Girl Scout cookie Somalis, I hide them.
I can only get them once a year.
I mean it makes.
Sense they key boy makes them now and then.
So the coconut.
Drinks.
I think they taste the Nope Nope, sorry.
They're a little different I guess.
2:18
They're made with milk chocolate instead of dark chocolate.
That's crying.
I know.
I tried a new recipe and it's so I get a veggie box weekly and there's stuff I've never heard of that you've never heard of because I read you the veggie baclist.
2:34
And I was like, I don't look up what this is, but I got purple sweet potatoes two weeks in a row.
And I was like, I bet you can make like, I like pumpkin bread.
And so I was like, I bet you can make sweet potato bread and just like season it like that.
And I liked it up.
Apparently southern people really like sweet potato bread.
2:50
So I made purple sweet potato bread and I put like a cream cheese.
Astonished by what you do?
I put like a cream cheese ribbon in the middle.
I should have like folded it in better because I was just kind of like a clump of cream cheese and each thing and then candied pecans.
So good.
3:07
I don't think we need sweep potato casserole this Thanksgiving.
I think I just need to make that, but it's.
Purple.
It's purple.
It's a little grayish once it's.
Baked.
Yeah, it.
Look like it's still pretty purple, but you put buttermilk in it.
3:22
And so I know this word.
I think, like I said, it's antithionins.
Lucas, my husband, who's a plant scientist, always like, it's very cool, but I'm not sciency, so sometimes it's overwhelming.
But every time we get veggies in the veggie box, he's like, oh, this ones this color because of this and this ones this color because of this.
3:42
But the antiphonin that makes it purple and makes purple green beans and other things, once it's introduced to acid or heat, it starts to degradate the thing.
But I put buttermilk in the bread which is high acid so it started turning it blue.
Oh my gosh, I.
3:58
Love this I.
Did not know this thing about purple green beans, which aren't green beans, they're purple beans I guess, but I did not know this.
So I'm like we were picking for one of our customers actually asked us to pick her garden while she was gone for a couple weeks and.
4:14
She donated it to the food pantry.
My dad.
Ran phenomenal.
Darlin, we love you.
We love you.
So I picked these purple beans and I love green beans.
So I'm like, I'm gonna cook these up.
So I put these purple beans in the pan.
I took a picture and I'm like, these are so cute.
4:30
And then I went to check on something and I came back and lifted the lid and I'm like, what the hell They're.
Green.
I didn't know that happened.
I was like what is happened to my purple beans?
It's very shocking if you don't know ahead of time that that's what's coming.
4:45
Hi, you guys know this but the listeners don't know this about me.
I love cooking like I just I like hosting, I love people and the veggie box has been a cool opportunity.
Shout out to the Allen Neighborhood Center in Lansing.
They have just great programs, bring a lot of produce to the area because I live in like an urban region, I guess.
5:08
But so I've been introduced to a lot of stuff and I like playing with cooking and trying new things and stuff.
So I've had a lot of fun this summer.
But I love cooking and I'll say this.
So I start posting on it again.
I do have a cooking Instagram.
5:24
I feel called a.
Grease to eat and it's cool, yeah.
You should go on I.
Should make that.
Because you are the kind of person they could be.
Like here's an avocado and a banana stem and some baking soda.
5:40
Make a 2 course meal and you'd be like you know what I got?
This OK?
I would turn a banana stem.
Just the stem.
Sashima would be like.
I would grind it and hide it in something I don't know.
I don't think banana stems are edible, they're basically wood.
5:57
Pulp, I was just making a point that you can pretty much.
Peels and so I am yes.
So I love guac with something like pickled in it.
So I'd probably like really finely cut up the banana peel and do a quick pickling on it.
6:14
And then I would mix it in with the avocado and then I'd use the baking soda to make like a quick flat bread or something.
I do not know how I birthed this human.
We, her dad and I, Jim St.
Jim, have like 8 meals on rotate.
6:35
That's pretty much it.
And neither one of us is like great at cooking or likes to.
Cook that is great at pancakes.
That man can do some good.
Pancakes.
Lots of chocolate chips in them.
Here's why I'm this way because I'm extremely susceptible to bullying and my cousin Michael.
6:57
Michael who is?
Like a phenomenal chef, but he's always.
Chef with a capital.
C Like yeah, living.
His food is so good, one time when I lived with his mom for like 3 weeks while my lease was like in between he spent like 3 hours making a quesadilla but I didn't.
7:15
I didn't stay up for the end of it but I bet it was the best quesadilla anyones ever had in their life.
But yeah, he makes.
Great, great food.
When we were Hannah and I like used to only eat cheese pizza, like very limited palates.
He would always be like, why like bully us and be like, try something on it.
7:34
And I'm susceptible to bullying.
So I was like, fine, I'll start trying stuff.
And then I was like, oh, it tastes good.
No.
And me, they say that and I'm like, Yep.
Yeah, I have the pellet of a toddler.
I say I'm adventurous in many ways.
I'm not adventurous with food.
I have some limits though, like I.
7:52
Well, Hannah ate octopus when she was in Japan.
Well, Hannah is Emily's twin sister and my daughter also.
And yeah, they eat different things in Japan, things that are like normal to us.
They have their own things that are normal to them.
And Hannah was, she was determined to be polite and to be a good guest and try things.
8:14
I I do not have that need, I won't be a jerk about it.
All day and I'll.
Push things around if I don't want to eat them.
I just, I don't know, it's a thing.
I can't.
Well, it's.
Like how you like.
Strawberry smoothies, but not strawberry milkshakes.
8:29
Yeah, yeah.
What a weirdo.
It's true.
You know what our one of our crew members, Kaylee, made fun of me the other day because actually, I don't even think I can tell the story.
Let's get into paint.
We can talk about how I gave you an emergency banana yesterday.
8:46
You left it in the truck.
Yeah, well, you know what?
I removed everything else.
From your car.
You should have seen that thing before you were.
Supposed to eat that, You know, missing nutrients.
You're malnourished and hungry.
And you?
Listen, Linda.
9:03
Listen, Linda.
Listen.
Listen, Linda.
Yesterday she was like, I have a migraine.
I was like, have you had any protein?
Have you had any water?
Have you had anything?
And she's like, no.
Tired.
Yeah.
And lately she's been like, you need to stop waiting so long to eat lunch, or you need to stop, just eat lunch.
9:19
Hypocritical doesn't mean it's not true.
Yeah, but then you're like, I haven't eaten anything in 72 hours, but I have had 7 mountain dews.
Actually it's more like 15 mountain dews in 72 hours.
She.
She only has a few a day otherwise she gets like anxiety rage monstery.
9:37
Like.
She's literally probably the nicest human I know, unless she's had too much caffeine and then I'm like tippy toes around her.
Like at work, she'll be sitting in front of the whiteboard and I'm like.
That's just me having an existential crisis.
Oh my gosh, yes.
9:53
If any of you out there know like a phenomenal way, like a scheduling system, I would that.
Involves 10 people, multiple jobs.
Yes.
And moving them around like every couple.
Everything.
Yeah.
Please let me know.
She uses whiteboards.
Right now I figured that.
10:09
I mean the whiteboards work great, but then we it's hard like if you're not in the.
Office.
Yeah, Then it's hard.
We have thought about getting a wildlife camera.
Yes, just to shine, but then the lights are always off, and even if we leave them on, conscientious people in our building turn them off.
10:24
We get the night mode.
Oh.
My God, I don't.
Know if you could see the writing?
I don't think you'd.
Be able to What if we get glow in the dark markers?
OK.
All right, so last week you talked to us about different kinds of paint Sheens and what they're made of, oil or water.
10:42
But we really want to know, like, how do you apply it for homeowners?
Rush around and roll around.
Find out we are.
Brushing, brushing, brushing, brushing.
Brushing, brushing, brushing.
We're talking about brushes.
10:57
Today, friends, we haven't gotten the idea.
I.
Have what?
Last interruption?
I know this song is in my head.
Brusha brusha brusha.
What is that from?
It's a.
Toothbrush.
It's a toothbrush song in a children's cartoon.
I think it's in Bear in the Big Boot.
House so I'm not going crazy like that's the thing I mean.
11:14
Yes, but not because of that.
Yeah, OK.
It is the OK something references it and something that we've watched is it might.
Be in a ROM com or something that seems like on brand for both of us.
Yeah, yeah.
11:30
But.
Okay, anyway.
Here to learn about brushes, not here to.
Learn about brushes.
Kid shows.
So and Arlie loves her some good brushes.
Can't get crushes on brushes.
Yeah, some crushes and some brushes.
I also love singing, apparently about an.
11:47
Animal Podcast.
So I love doing research on just about anything and I got 5 pages of brush information and I whittled it down to a note card and 1/2 so if you have any.
Applause for that.
12:02
You know, thank you, thank you, thank you.
We'll.
Have to do a future just like brush school for brush junkies where you get to tell yourself.
Maybe behind the paywall because Arlie's knowledge is worth.
She's got a lot of knowledge right now.
Tell us about this.
Research.
There's two different kinds of brushes.
12:17
Do then I guess what the kinds are.
Natural and synthetic, Perfect.
You're an.
Angel yes, so natural I made out of Can you guess?
Some animal's hair.
Yeah, I don't want to get too much into it.
It's really.
As long as you tell me that they shave the animal and not kill the animal to get the hair.
12:37
I don't know.
Why would they kill?
It that's what I'm asking.
I don't know those things, and those things are not important for our purposes.
OK, back on track.
Back on track.
So basically distracting us.
Oh my gosh, my goodness.
12:54
The most important things about these is natural are meant for oil based and synthetic are meant primarily for water based paints.
And there's a couple of reasons why this distinction is important.
And basically the natural ones have a specific structure.
13:13
When they get exposed to water, just like our hair, they get like soft, they lose their structure.
So if you get a natural fiber brush and you put it in water based paint, it loses all of its shape.
So you can't really use it very well.
That's why.
And then most synthetic brushes you don't use with oil based paints because they just don't perform very well in the oil based paint and in the solvent to remove the oil from your brush if.
13:40
You kind of think about like synthetic being plastic.
Think about if you like have a plastic plate and you put olive oil on it.
Like it's just.
It's not sticking.
Yeah, yeah, there's some, there's some synthetic brushes that are specifically made to withstand using oil based paints with like Wooster Chynex has a really good brush that's for like all different paints and it it is made out of I think it's like Duron Chynex filament or something like that.
14:17
Oh, like some patented.
Yeah, it's like a, it's like a modified filament that is made to withstand the, the chemicals that the, that the, that you need for the solvents or whatever.
Yeah.
And then oil based paints again.
14:35
They they just what am I saying?
The natural fiber brushes aren't good because they swell and they lose their structure in water based paints, but they also like get dried out.
14:53
So the natural like oils in the brush will kind of get dried out overtime if you use them with water based paints because like acrylic has like kind of a high pH.
So the what is it called basicity or something of it is like the basicness, the basicness of the acrylic paint just like totally ruins like the purpose of a natural fiber brush.
15:15
So it's important just to use the brush for its intended art.
Purpose Natural fiber more expensive than synthetic.
I think it depends.
Some are.
It's more common to find cheaper brushes in synthetic, but if you're talking about like a certain tier, I think they're kind of equal.
15:36
So like if you're going for like a $15 synthetic brush, a $15 natural fiber brush, they're going to be about the same.
But like, you can't find a lot of natural brushes that are like a dollar.
Like you can find yeah, synthetic brushes that are cheap.
Because a creature literally has to grow.
15:53
Grow the.
Hair, Yeah, yeah, has to grow the hair and they have like this whole like shaping process and stuff like that.
I don't know, there's videos online of how they make like natural like makeup brushes and like all this stuff is.
It kind of like how we like curl our hair and stuff like they apply heat.
16:09
And no, they like get this.
They basically like flatten all of the hairs down and then they take like a chunk of it and they wrap it at the base.
Oh, that's cool.
And then they like, tap it down and they shave it into the shape.
Oh, I've seen those videos.
16:25
Yeah.
And then they get like the glue around it and then they put it in and then they, like, brush it out.
A lot of them are like handmade.
One time we should make our own brushes.
Just to see we can make it out of our own hair.
Let's see whose hair is best for brushing on paint.
16:41
Yes, we'll do a couple.
Of mile I'll just disintegrate.
OK.
So those those are important things to know when you're picking out a paintbrush.
And the other one important thing to know when you're picking out a paintbrush is there's like different types of stiffness that is shown on paintbrush packaging when you're buying one.
16:59
Kind of like toothbrushes.
Yeah, like toothbrushes.
Yeah.
So basically there's very soft or like low stiff or what stiff call them soft.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And those are, those are for like slow drying things.
17:18
Then there's medium stiffness, which is most common, which is for basically everything.
And then there's like a higher.
Extra stiff.
I think, yeah, firm.
Has extra stiff.
Firm and and extra stiff, and those are for like thicker paints and those are mostly like the two extremes are for very specific things.
17:38
What you're going to want to look for is something that says like medium firm or like, you know, mid stiff or whatever.
And that just gives you like a lot more.
It gives you the control of like a stiffer brush, but it gives you like the flexibility of a softer brush.
17:55
And you can use it on trim, you can use it in cutting, in walls, all sorts of things.
And if you're doing a very specific job and you need a very specific paintbrush, then you can look into doing a softer or a more firm brush.
But basically you really just need a medium stiff brush.
18:15
And then we like to use those angled brushes, the shapes of them.
Where the top of the brush is angled, Yeah.
Yeah, there's also wedge ones, which is like if you're looking from the side, like the skinny side of the, I guess the profile of your paintbrush, it's beveled that way.
18:34
And the other one, the wet or the the angled is, if you're looking at it like face forward, what?
Would the bevel be for?
Yeah, what is that for?
I've never used a beveled brush.
I have a zebra beveled brush and I use it basically the same way as the angled one, but do you just?
18:53
Hold it differently to get the angle a different direction.
No use it the same we should.
We'll do a video kind of showing how they operate.
That'll be easier for everybody.
To see, yeah.
It doesn't quite fit into corners the same way that an angled brush does, but the reason I like that one is just because it holds quite a lot of.
19:12
Pose, you don't have to tip.
Yeah, especially if you're on ladders.
It sucks having to.
Yes I did for for you guys out there.
I did a test with multiple different types of brushes cause we had like this whole brush fiasco.
19:28
Which one was the best?
1?
And so I went out and I bought like 5 or 6 different paint brushes and I tested them all.
And I tested like how long it took to get the paint out of them, how long with like one dip, how far they could go before you needed to dip them.
19:45
She kept track of inches.
Guys like this one drags 36 inches, this one does 18.
Yeah, and the zebra.
The zebra wedge one, it outperformed all of them with it was like over 80 inches of how far you could go and the chynax, which was fantastic for cutting in probably the straightest, most even line you could ever do, but you can only get like 18 inches out of it because it's so.
20:14
Like firm and thin that it doesn't really hold like a lot of like a quantity.
Of paint a reservoir of.
Paint.
Yeah, it doesn't.
So it's great for like if you have like really precise like a corner or something, but it's not great for like long runs unless you want to take 17 years to do something, which is not my business.
20:36
Anyway.
The most important thing about brushes, and this is our final brush topic, is clean out.
Your brush?
Yeah.
Clean out your brush.
This is so important in just it's so important.
Just do it.
Please, I beg of you.
20:51
If you have like a dollar brush.
And just Chuck it.
Just throw it away unless you want to do it.
But if it's a cheap brush, I'd throw it away like those foam brushes or the ones that are like really coarse and like not even a console.
Oh I hate those.
21:07
Or like the ones that have like the little the brushes come out.
Oh yeah, the bristles like shed, yeah, I would throw those away.
But if you're getting a brush that's over $6.
Yeah, you don't want to be.
I guess even less than that I would.
21:25
I would definitely unnecessarily.
Yeah, I would.
I would get a nicer brush.
I think the the Zebra brush that I really liked was like $11.00 for one, which is kind of expensive.
You can get packs online of.
So if you're, if you're, if you're painting a whole room and you need like one type of brush, you can go to the store and get 1 brush or order them online.
21:49
If you're doing a couple different rooms and you have a couple different things that you want to do like small corners and then also baseboards and also cutting in walls.
Like maybe get a three pack of like different sizes or something of a good, you know, brand.
But if you're going to pay, you know, for a brush and you're not just getting them from somebody else, I mean, even if you are, but if you have a quality brush, you're going to want to rinse and wash them out.
22:14
You want to save your brush.
They can, they are ruined so easily because if we remember from last episode, water based paints dries in as little as 30 minutes so you could go.
Set it down to go eat lunch, Yeah.
And come back and your brush is.
22:29
Ruined.
Yeah, got.
Crusties on it and stuff and it doesn't really come back the same way even if you get that stuff out.
You can try especially if the the paint hasn't dried all the way through to the center of your brush.
Like if it's just Crusty's on the outside, you can kind of get it out with like a wire brush or a very.
22:46
Easy, very non-technical solution.
If you have to step away from your brush, wrap it in Saran wrap.
That's all you have to do.
Or a grocery bag.
Or any kind of.
Plastic, plastic.
Just make sure air doesn't have access to it and you come back.
It'll be just like when you left.
It.
Yeah, yeah.
So there's really.
No need to wreck a brush.
23:02
Yeah, yeah.
And this works primarily for water based.
Yeah, the bus, yeah, is wrapping it up and then going back at a separate time or right after whenever you get a chance to wash out your brush.
Basically all you do is you turn on the water.
23:20
You get it like, you know, warm ish warm adjacent.
You can use cold water if you have to.
It's not super pleasant if you're doing it with your hands.
Yeah, it's.
Not fun for that person washing brushes.
I understand that sometimes you're in a place where you don't like, maybe you don't have like access to like heated water.
23:37
Ask how we know, yeah.
But you just kind of I, what I do is I take the brush in the palm of my hand and with the water running on it and I kind of like swirl it around like I'm mixing something.
And then after a minute when like a good chunk of like the most concentrated amount of paint has come out and put a little bit of soap in my hand.
23:58
You can use really any type of soap.
Dish soap is probably like I like.
Dish soap the best.
Yeah, but in a pinch, you can use kind of anything.
And then you just kind of work it through the brushes.
I kind of do like, what is it?
24:14
Magic?
Eights, Infinity, infinities, whatever they are.
And then you just keep letting the water rinse through and you keep the brush with the bristles down facing downward.
You can like kind of brush it back and forth on the bottom of the sink or whatever.
24:30
And then once the water runs clear, you kind of like squeeze it out and get, like the bulk of the water out.
And then you lay it to dry.
And you either lay it to dry on its side or upside down.
What you don't want is to leave it with the bristles pointed upward because then the water kind of sits in the same place that the glue does.
24:50
That's not good for it.
Yeah.
You can get, like, even mold can grow in there.
Yeah.
Because if you have.
Like a wood one it just.
Starts yeah, it seems down and stuff.
It's just not great.
So just like leaving it on its side after you've gotten the bulk of the water out and that's that's.
And one of the, the tricks that I learned from Jim is when you have your brush all rinsed out, you want to take the, the bristles as they dry, are not going to back go back into their normal shape.
25:16
They're going to dry in whatever shape.
The you kind of like your hair.
If you like, wrap it around a curler and let it dry.
It's going to be curly.
It's the same with brushes.
So if you like squeeze them out and it's kind of like out of shape because you squeezed it, that's how it's going to dry and then it's not going to perform.
Now you can wet it again and bring it back to life, but you may as well just like move the bristles in the way that you want them, you know, back into its original position and it will dry that way.
25:41
But a way to get it to dry fast, especially if you need to like change colors or something, is to just wrap it in a paper towel because this is like Jim's magic solution for wet shoes.
Also, whenever he comes in as like shoes are wet, he stuffs his shoes with paper towel because it will draw the water out of it faster than they'll just air dry.
25:58
And it does the exact same thing for your paintbrush.
So I will like, roll mine up in a paper towel and then I will gently fold the extra over, like on the angled part of the brush and then set it down.
And then you go back and take it off and it's like, perfect.
Yeah, dry.
And it's the right shape.
And it'll be dry like the next day.
26:15
Yeah, yeah.
Usually like overnight and stuff when we didn't.
Right now we're we're very blessed.
We have a lot of paint brushes in the shop, but when it was just the two of us in the business, we had like a limited.
Number we did, and we were like, we did a lot of painting in the beginning.
26:31
So yeah, we wanted to make sure the brushes were ready.
Yeah.
And yeah, and if you, if you don't have a brush and you don't plan ahead, you're going to have to buy it wherever you are.
Yeah.
And that might be somewhere your brush is $15.00 so.
Yeah, yeah.
I'd look, if you're planning painting isn't really something that I would recommend doing spur of the moment because there's a lot of factors that go into it.
26:52
And even though it's a really affordable DIY, it is expensive.
Paint is expensive.
Paintbrushes are expensive rollers.
All of the supplies that you need are quite like, like not like $10 isn't all that much money, but like for a paintbrush, that's kind of a lot of money.
27:08
And then, you know, maybe you need 2 and then you need, you know, everything on top of each other is, is a lot of money.
So so.
I heard that the next time we do our painting episode, I know you're already planning it, but it may not be next week.
I'm not sure.
We're doing painting one O 1 last week and painting one O 2 this week.
27:25
So we'll see what next week is.
It'll be a surprise.
A surprise, but you're going to tell us about how to prep the walls and how my biggest thing with painting is how to cut in freehand instead of taping everything, which is laborious and does not work.
27:43
Nope.
So it's a double whammy.
So I will look forward to that.
But if you dig what we're doing and you want to help us bring education to women, then Emily will tell you how to find us.
You can find us two places at How to Handy Ma'am if you would like to become your own Handy Ma'am, and at My Handy Ma'am if you would like to see what we're up to and what we do for clients.
28:06
So we have galleries on our website.
So if you want to see like lots of fun before now my.
Handymaam.com And that is ma'am despite.
AAM.
How much Google?
Every time I type it in is like handyman.
No Google handy, ma'am.
28:23
It's like those Tik toks with Google's a person.
Yeah, and they're like cool, No, cute.
Dogs, golden dogs, fun dogs, and it's like handyman and he's like handyman.
No handyman, handyman, handyman.
Anyway, you'll can find us and thanks for listening.
28:41
Yes, we.
Love you and help us, bye.
